The Hidden Power of Collaboration Posts [Episode 115]

Hello, I'm coming at you with this. It's gonna be a replay today, but I'm rerecording the intro and I'm actually, it's my first episode recording outside on my porch Again, I'm so excited it's finally warm enough to record outside. I wanted to replay this episode because I still see so many people not using this feature, and it's the collaboration post feature on Instagram, and I'm telling you.

If you do it once and you're like, it didn't work, I'm gonna be upset. You gotta keep, I would say to aim to do it at the very least, once a month. If I am looking at my own feed right now and like, like auditing my own feed, this is something that I'm like, oh yeah, I need to do more of these as well. So a collaboration post, I'm gonna explain what all it is in this episode, but it's, it's different than just like tagging somebody.

On your Instagram post, and it's just essentially a way for you to get in front of two audiences at the same time. This is great for, let's say you have a local midwife who refers you people and you wanna do a collaboration post with them, or even you have a favorite local coffee shop. It doesn't necessarily have to be like a colleague or for me, for example, like being in the online space, like maybe I tag my favorite website provider or collaborate with my favorite website providers or.

My favorite business coaches are like people who don't do what I do at the time. This is airing, I'm having a free masterclass tomorrow. So depending on when you're listening to this, if you're listening to it the day it comes out, um, it'll be tomorrow. But if you're listening to it later on, the new free masterclass is Wednesday, April 23rd at 12 Eastern, and it's called How to Use Instagram Marketing to Make Your Health Practice the Go-to in your Community.

There will be a replay available for a limited time. I'm not sure exactly how long we're gonna keep that replay option open, but if you're listening to this on the day it comes out, go ahead and hop in because I'm doing a like special bonus for people who get on live. So you can get into that masterclass just by going to molly cahill.com/masterclass.

Very fancy. I'm also recording this intro on the heels of my second annual content creation retreat. That was last weekend. If you haven't gone onto my Instagram to check out the recap reel, it was magical. It was so amazing. I'm not quite sure what I'm gonna do next year. It's like, obviously I love it and it feels my cup up so much like once I'm there, the lead up is just like really stressful, even though Carolyn, my online business manager, does the majority of the planning and then.

I had, um, my friend Keely Schneider, who was actually on the podcast, should go back and listen to that episode as the like onsite person kind of in charge of, we called her like the momager concierge. But I'm on the, like I said, I'm just like still, I literally slept to like almost nine o'clock this morning, literals just trying my body, still trying to recover from the stress of planning and hosting and holding space for that many people for the whole weekend.

Like I said, it was like, don't get me wrong, it was absolutely amazing, but it's also like. It's just a lot. It's like 72 hours of being very on and being in charge of everybody. So I, if you're interested in coming to one of my in-person retreats, I definitely will do something again. I'm not sure exactly what just yet or when, but just let me know and I'll make sure that you get added to the wait list.

I. Okay, so this episode is actually pretty short, and when you make your first collab post, I would love to see it. So tag me and let me know and here we go.

Hey, welcome to Holistic Marketing Simplified. This podcast boils down to the fact that we wholeheartedly believe that more humans need to know about holistic health solutions. And you didn't go to school to learn how to be a full-time content creator and show up on Instagram and do all of this marketing stuff all day, every day.

So let's come hanging out while we chat. All things easy in your marketing and my goal is that you shift your mindset around your marketing from a quote should to a I get to more dream patients and clients. Yes, please. My name is Morgan Adams, and I am a holistic sleep coach in Richmond, Virginia, and I listen to the Holistic Marketing Simplified podcast.

All right. I realized when I was outlining this episode that I need to do another episode on schedulers and on batching content because. Fun fact. I actually don't batch any of my content at all, but obviously for our Instagram management clients, we do because we wouldn't be able to, not because the client has to check it.

So, um, I'll do a whole episode on like finding what works for you based on your own batching style. The reason I'm starting this episode on collab posts off with that is a lot of people, like I understand that pre-planning and pre-scheduling things and almost every type of planning software, even meta's own native scheduler, I.

Has like an auto post feature, right? And everybody's like, how do I schedule an auto post it? Well, the thing is, as of the time I'm recording this, I'm recording this on Monday, August 19th. There is no way to add a collaborator ahead of time. Meaning if you're gonna do this type of post on Instagram, and I also, y'all know me, I don't really know anything about Facebook.

I'm just being honest. I have no idea if this type of post exists on Facebook. But if you're gonna be doing this on Instagram, you. Have to do this manually, meaning like the post itself and the caption can all be pre-scheduled, but when you go to post it on Instagram, it can't be auto auto posted. This is adding a collaborator as something that has to be done manually.

So the difference in just tagging somebody in a post and adding someone as a collaborator is mostly this. If you're not driving or if you're not in the middle of something and you wanna open up your phone and open up your Instagram page to your main profile, if you scroll all the way over, not scroll, but if you look all the way over to the far right side of your top of your grid, you'll see a tagged tab that's like never, never land, like nobody.

Looks there. So that is where if someone like literally just like tags you in the photo, which is something you've probably heard of in the past. That's how it used to be. I mean, why they've kept that and I don't know. It's all kind of confusing. I totally understand as I'm talking about this, you're gonna be like, what the heck are you talking about?

Sometimes you just have to actually like do it to see what I'm talking about for this to make more sense. So that is a tagged picture. Then there's also a difference if you just mention somebody in the caption itself. So. For example, if you are writing the caption and you're like, check out my favorite pediatric dentist for tongue tie revisions at XYZ kids dentist, that is just an at mention that neither tags them, nor adds them as a collaborator.

Again, why is this also confusing? I don't know. I didn't invent the app. I can just teach you what I know about it. So now that I've talked to you about the difference in tagging someone versus at mentioning, here's how you actually add someone as a collaborator, and this is again, just the insanity of why Instagram is so confusing.

Once you're about to finish the post, you will hit add tag. So you're gonna see that and be like, no, Molly said not to tag. So it's really confusing 'cause it says ad tag, but you'll actually see the ad collaborator option. If the person you want to add as a collaborator is grayed out for some reason, that simply means that whatever audio you use, they likely don't have their account set up as an entrepreneur professional account, and they don't have access to this full sound library.

So you can try removing the audio and then they shouldn't be grayed out anymore. And then once you do that, then the request will be sent to them. And at the end of the episode, I'll talk about whether or not you need to like ask 'em ahead of time. What a collaboration post does and how it's different than simply tagging someone or at mentioning someone is if you add someone as a collaborator and they accept it, now they have to accept it.

It doesn't just automatically do this, it will show on their main grid. So rather than living all the way over and never, never land on the tagged tab, and then the at mention, which doesn't really do anything, adding someone's a collaborator is a way to get in front of. Someone else's audience. How we use these for our Instagram management clients, and we have a lot of templates that use this inside of holistic marketing hub is, um, I'm gonna stay on the pediatric dentist example because it's easy.

Let's say you're a pediatric and prenatal chiropractor and um, you do a post. Educating on chiropractic and tongue ties. And then you also want to shout out your favorite local dentist. If you add them as a collaborator, it now that, and they accept it. That same exact post will now live on their Instagram page.

So as of today, you can. Add up to five collaborators on a post. So one of our most popular templates inside Holistic Marketing Hub is we have a, like our recommendation for your child's pediatric. I, well, I can't remember what exactly it says, but it's like you can talk or your, our recommendations for your pregnancy or whatever.

And it can be, they have like a doula, a lactation, um. Consultant a maybe like a baby boutique or maybe like a group of midwives, maybe like a holistic pediatrician, and they list all of these people through the carousel. It's like a Instagram carousel post. Then what we do is we go in and add all of those.

I mean, they might not have an Instagram account, right? If they don't, obviously this doesn't work. Go add all of those accounts as collaborators, so you have the potential, let's say all five, except now you're living, your content is living on those other people's pages. So you can do this for static, like regular posts, like I said, like carousels.

Or you can also do this for reels. Now if you live, if you're in a smaller town or maybe like you're in a niche where you don't have as many professional referrals, it doesn't have to be just complimentary to your niche. This can also just be local businesses in the area that have nothing to do with what you do.

So it could be coffee shop restaurant. One we recently did for a more pain based chiropractor was, there's like a really big pickleball facility in town, so we wrote a caption about like stay on top of your pickleball game. Then we added the pickleball facility as a collaborator. Guess what? The first time we did it, they didn't accept it, so we tried it again a month later.

The exact same post, literally the exact same. Only thing we changed was we made the image. Look a little more so like if there's like a big name you're kind of trying to go after and you're like, man, I hope they accept my collaboration request, which we'll talk about asking them in advance in a minute.

But only thing we changed was on the graphic. We made it a little more like. Brand neutral so that it wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb on the pickleball facilities page so that they would be more likely to accept it. Now some, most local businesses like aren't really gonna care about their grid aesthetic, but just know that this was like, something I noticed was that they did kind of have this certain grid aesthetic, and so I'm like, okay, well they're not gonna accept this if it looks totally different.

So I just tweak the image slightly to make it be something that would fit on their page. So if you're an online only health business, I still love having, um, a local presence. If you've been around here for a while, you know that one of my top tips for growing your online health business, like whether it's health coaching, life coaching, whatever functional medicine is to actually start locally and treat it as if it were a brick and mortar, uh, was a brick and mortar business.

So I still love doing this type of thing locally, but you can also do like, I have a. Carousel that I've been working on, that if I were to go audit my own account right now, I would be like, Molly, this is the type of content that you are missing, is the community and referral type content. And I have a collab post that I'm working on.

With all of the people who I recommend who are like business coaches to chiropractors and health coaches and such, website people, SEO people, um, just people who don't do what I do, but like are people I feel really comfortable referring my clients to. So, like I said, it doesn't have to be brick and mortar.

It can definitely be online and I would highly recommend if you haven't already gotten my content ecosystem, we'll link it in the show notes and it just, the community and collaboration type of content is something that I almost 100% of the time find missing from people's pages when I go audit their Instagram account.

While on the concept, on the topic of auditing, one of my hub students recently asked me in the Slack channel, she's like, Hey, we've been doing interviews with local businesses and I'm really bummed that they haven't gotten more traction. Can you take a look? So I took a look and it turns out that these interview videos they were doing were super long, like, I wanna say like six to 10 minutes.

So just remember that people go to Instagram for short form content. They don't go to watch really long videos. That's somewhere like YouTube. People know that they're gonna be sitting down for longer videos, right? So what I advised her to do instead was we did this for our client, Dr. Fatty, where she did, I think it was like, let's say like a 10 minute interview.

She's a chiropractor in Delmar, California. So if you wanna go like check out her Instagram page, you can see this in action. She interviewed a local naturopathic doctor, and so we just chopped up the interview into parts. I think we did like a part one, part two, I think we did like up to a part four. And then each time we posted a new segment, we added.

A collaborator so that it lives on her page. So in terms of, do you need to ask these people ahead of time to add them as a collaborator? Absolutely not. It's not gonna just like go automatically live on their page. It's not like you're violating anything. Sometimes I'll add a lot of my top affiliates as collaborators and like sometimes they accept and sometimes they don't.

But you definitely can ask. I'm just saying like, if that's what's impeding you from trying it. Remember my example about the pickleball? They didn't accept it the first time and then they did a month later. Think about like, I know this is still at the time this airs, this will still be like two months out, but like small business Saturday, like it's a great time for, people want their small business, they want the exposure on other people's pages.

Now note that if they don't accept it, I still always recommend that you just send them a DM and just say, Hey, I just added you as a collaborator on this post. No pressure to accept. But if you do accept, it will live on both of our pages and it just kind of doubles our exposure. That's all you have to say.

Because a lot of people aren't Instagram savvy enough to realize that you, you like ask them to be a collaborator. And from my experience, someone has asked me before and if I didn't accept it right then it just comes up in your notifications and then I. As you get more notifications, it just gets buried.

Like you don't keep getting notified like, Hey, you never went back and looked at this collab request. So it's like if they don't catch it and they don't see it, then for all you know, it just got buried. So I would say best practices, you don't have to like ask permission ahead of time. Most people want the exposure, right?

But what I would do is send them a DM afterwards and just say, Hey, you know what I just said about, just didn't want this to get buried. You know, I invited you to collab on this post. Obviously if there are any type of influencers or something like that where it's like natural, obviously, I don't know. I get weird about influencer marketing when it comes to certain services.

It's like if they actually use you and they're actually, you know, patients who are happy to talk about it or clients, um, that's another way that you could use the collaboration feature. But yeah, I would highly encourage you to incorporate this into your content. Like I said, it is something that. For some people it can take a little bit more time, or it can be as simple as the next time you're at a locally owned coffee shop, snapping a selfie with your drink and just saying, where's your favorite place to get coffee in Cincinnati, Ohio?

Mine is blank. And then put in the coffee shop in Adam as collaborator, so it doesn't have to be. Fancy. Okay. All right. I hope this was super helpful and I can't wait to chat with you guys on another episode. Thank you for listening to Holistic Marketing Simplified, and hey, you know how every podcaster at the very end of their episode asks you to rate and review their podcast?

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